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HBO Ren Farley There are three episodes—one critic gave it a nice title—“succession Made with turkey legs.” Or perhaps a better description of the documentary — as director Lance Oppenheim himself puts it — is this: Vanderpump Rules meet There will be bloodshedEither way, Oppenheim’s documentation of the power struggles behind the scenes at the Texas Renaissance Festival is a must-watch, and clearly demonstrates Oppenheim’s three-year immersion in his subject (along with his co-creator, journalist David Gorvy Herbert, and their production team).
Still, some questions remain unanswered: Will King George Cullum retire? Will he continue to go on sugar daddy dates? What’s going on with Jeff and Brady Baldwin? Will there be more episodes? How do you survive on popcorn and pie for three years? Here’s what Oppenheim (whose previous films include Sperm World and Some kind of paradise) spoke openly about it all, and revealed that life is actually a lot like eating a turkey leg.
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From the beginning, I thought, “There’s no way George is going to retire.” For decades, the Renaissance Festival was his world. If he retired, he might never reach his goal of living to 95. There are studies Regarding the reasons why men have an increased risk of death after retirement, Especially when they have nothing else meaningful going on in their lives. But what do you think about this? Should he take the buyout?
The more I researched this, the more I discovered different Georges in our culture. Just like in the movie They liveI put on my sunglasses and I started to see George. I thought this story was about a man at an advanced age who had created something very special and had achieved great success, and he didn’t know if it would work well without him. If you look around society, you see this archetype everywhere. It’s everywhere in politics — both presidential candidates.Ren Farley) says a lot about our current cultural situation, that many governments and institutions are run by elderly people who cling to their positions because it gives their lives meaning and purpose, and what that says about the people who work under them who can run the next generation, but perhaps they don’t have as much magic as the first person did.
Yes, George reminded me of both Biden and Trump at different times.
Exactly. He asks a very pertinent question: “What’s the point of being a king without a kingdom?” At the beginning, he says he’s “free.” At the end, after careful consideration and a lot of wacky decisions, he says he’ll be “nothing.” I think both things are true. I don’t understand the way he treats other people, but I identify with your work. Are you greater than the thing you’ve put all your energy and time into? Can you be greater than life? Can you find joy outside of work? In that sense, the story ends up being not just about this archetype, but about office life and our relationship to work. You also see it in people like Jeff, who says, “Why can’t I just go home and leave it alone? Why is this so important to me?”
I only realized halfway through the shoot that George moved in this cyclical way. It wasn’t until the end that I realized that everything we captured was basically a Möbius strip or a big cycle. Ultimately, this cycle is going to continue long after we’re done. It’s been going on for decades. Hopefully,[the audience]realizes that everything that’s happening is inevitable and it’s going to keep happening until George is no longer alive.
One thing that bothered me was that George was always sullen and only smiled when he was being cruel to someone else–it was a creepy smile. But I mean, was that accurate about him?
I think George got pleasure from (other people’s) suffering. You could see it written all over his face when he did it. I think he loved to see people fail so he could punish them. People said that during the shoot, George was much softer around us than when we were not around, and he was even harder on the staff.
So this is a good version.
Yes. It’s interesting that in the first two episodes, when George’s attention is not on the festival but on his companions’ art garden mission, he seems to prefer to let others run the festival for him. In the last episode, when he starts to focus on the festival, his controlling side comes out. His ex-wife Gail said that George has two sides: one side is playful, almost childlike, curious, artistic, funny and smart. And the other side is obsessed with controlling everything. To him, vulnerability is weakness. I also think he just likes games. He is a trickster in the mythical sense. He really likes to play games with others to entertain himself.
Did the girl he dated at Olive Garden end up getting anything from him, or did she really pay for her own flight from California only to get a salad and breadsticks?
George does pay for the meal afterward, and he pays for the lunch. That scene is interesting because it’s another example of George being close to someone, even though he’s acting rude. He opens up to her in a way that he wouldn’t do to his employees. He tells her how the deal is going, and she asks, “Don’t you miss being king?” He says, “No, I hope not.” It’s the only time in the entire series that he admits that he might be hesitant about giving up power. But again, I think the reason that scene was so surprising to me is that we’re curious about how he would treat someone he has romantic feelings for. There seems to be a connection, and then he walks away. I think he does that with any choice he makes in his life, whether it’s love or business.
Has there been any developments in George’s love life since filming?
If you wanted to go to[the Olive Garden]at 12 p.m. on a Tuesday, he would go. He would go on dates a few times a week. If Victor[the “King’s Roller” who worked for him]couldn’t find someone to go on a date, he would incur George’s wrath. You can see in episode three that when a date goes wrong, George’s world just blows up. He has to take his frustration out on other people, and for him it’s a given. But for other people, it’s their life.
The person I felt most for in the show was Jeff’s wife Brandi, who seemed to marry the fun Renaissance Festival guy and ended up marrying an obsessive stress monster. Did she find a job somewhere else? Did Jeff find her a new job at the Renaissance Festival?
Brandi has a new job outside of the festival but is still involved with the festival company. She has been very articulate about the entire festival experience. For me, Jeff and Brandi have a beautiful relationship, they trust each other and support each other, even in the depths of despair. They are always there for each other, and I love that about them. I also love their lifestyle. They don’t have children, which, as Jeff said, allows them to be children forever. When I visited Texas recently, I stayed in Jeff and Brandi’s Peter Pan-themed bedroom.
I think even now, Jeff’s life is still hard. He’s back to his old job, where Brandi once worked, but with a drastically reduced salary. He still loves the festival and his relationship with George. I think there are parts of him that he loves George, but he’ll never forget what happened to him. He wants to love George, and he wants George to love him. It’s a complex psychology because Jeff and Brandi’s lives have revolved around the festival for so long. They got married there, and many of their friends and experiences revolve around this kingdom that George built.
I don’t know if you’ve been in this situation before, but I’ve been around powerful people and you want that person to think you’re special and treat you well. I’ve been in jobs where I really wanted to impress them. This would lead to me doing things that demeaned myself in order to get their approval. So I understand that feeling, and it hurts to watch someone go through that.
Have you heard from anyone involved since the premiere? What have their reactions been like?
Everybody on the show has seen it, at least once. Jeff and Brandi have seen it twice. George has seen the first episode. I think everyone has their own personal relationship to the show and what it means to them. Episode three was emotionally exhausting, and I found it hard to take. But they were so happy. One of the things Jeff said to me that spoke volumes was, “Thank you for taking something so awful and turning it into something so wonderful.”
What confuses me is the made-up performance segments at the end of episodes 1 and 2. What is the reasoning behind this?
Part of my thinking is that the setting of the show we make is magical. Of course, some viewers may not need to hold hands like that or have things explained a certain way, but for me, it felt very awe-inspiring about the setting and the world and the elements. I felt that in making a documentary set in these places, there was a lot of potential and opportunity to do something that was out of context and really get to the level that many people are experiencing in their daily lives.
Also, for some reason documentaries are expected these days to look and feel a certain way. If they look that way, then it implies a certain sense of reality. But I would venture to say that this documentary – even with the touches of magic – is more real than many films that look like verités from a sideshow or even have talking heads. I say that because the moment you put a camera anywhere, reality is inherently manipulated. The only way I know to truly find the truth is to accept the manipulation and hope to look through the looking glass and come out the other side with something that feels more immediate and more moving.
Has there been any discussion about doing more episodes? It feels like an ongoing reality show, and there’s just too much going on.
Never say never. But we were there for three years. I kept reminding everyone involved that we had to be patient, but sometimes I would give in to my impatience and have a panic attack. How long is this going to last? Is it going to last for years? But I think this version of the story feels complete to me, and the question of this series is ultimately less about who will be the next king and more about power, and what that does to you and what it does to the people who want to have it.
I do feel like it’s complete, but at the same time, I want more – which is a good thing.
Put that into the story and let’s see if HBO pulls out its wallet.
Are you tired of eating turkey legs and popcorn?
My body changed. I went from being a scrawny person to having the physique of a 1950s Jewish boxer because of all the high-calorie food I ate, whether it was turkey legs or Taco Bell. I ate a lot of pie there because Ligia Giles, who appeared briefly in the show, made delicious pie.
But turkey legs are fun. The experience of eating a turkey leg never exceeds its potential. You see the turkey leg, and you get hungry. It’s big, and it looks good. You take your first bite, and it’s delicious. You take your second bite, and it gets a little cool, and then the oil starts running down your hands, dripping on your clothes, dripping on your shoes. And then you look at it, and there are probably about 100 bites left. And then look at in You’ll freak out a little bit because you’re eating an entire leg of an animal. Maybe that’s life. Few things are as good as their potential.
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